Oct 28 2004 1. the golden rule
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1. the golden rule
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The golden rule is endorsed by all the great world religions; Jesus, Hillel, and Confucius used it to summarize their ethical teachings. And for many centuries the idea has been influential among people of very diverse cultures. These facts suggest that the golden rule may be an important moral truth.

Let's consider an example of how the rule is used. President Kennedy in 1963 appealed to the golden rule in an anti-segregation speech at the time of the first black enrollment at the University of Alabama. He asked whites to consider what it would be like to be treated as second class citizens because of skin color. Whites were to imagine themselves being black - and being told that they couldn't vote, or go to the best public schools, or eat at most public restaurants, or sit in the front of the bus. Would whites be content to be treated that way? He was sure that they wouldn't - and yet this is how they treated others. He said the "heart of the question is ... whether we are going to treat our fellow Americans as we want to be treated."

The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: "Treat others only in ways that you're willing to be treated in the same exact situation." To apply it, you'd imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule.

To apply the golden rule adequately, we need knowledge and imagination. We need to know what effect our actions have on the lives of others. And we need to be able to imagine ourselves, vividly and accurately, in the other person's place on the receiving end of the action. With knowledge, imagination, and the golden rule, we can progress far in our moral thinking.

The golden rule is best seen as a consistency principle. It doesn't replace regular moral norms. It isn't an infallible guide on which actions are right or wrong; it doesn't give all the answers. It only prescribes consistency - that we not have our actions (toward another) be out of harmony with our desires (toward a reversed situation action). It tests our moral coherence. If we violate the golden rule, then we're violating the spirit of fairness and concern that lie at the heart of morality.

The golden rule, with roots in a wide range of world cultures, is well suited to be a standard to which different cultures could appeal in resolving conflicts. As the world becomes more and more a single interacting global community, the need for such a common standard is becoming more urgent.
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10/28/04 online frnortnr | British Columbia Canada
you are my hero.
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10/28/04 Mr12000 | Indiana USA
but what is your view on toothpaste?
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10/28/04 online jdg | Washington USA
dont touch the stuff, its poison
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10/28/04 caddis | Oregon USA
...assuming people want to be treated nicely, or even fairly. People don't want that, they want to spice up their bland, plain toast lives.

Talk to somebody who maintains one of those to-do-before-I-die lists. Where in there is fairness? No, it's all about rocking the pop hits, or doing two girls at the same time and having the money to set it all up.

It's all moral / romantic badunk-a-dunk used to pacify. That's what morality is all about -- keeping the competition at arms length.

Fix the people, and you don't need the g-rule.

Uhh -- I mean yeah -- people should be rockin' to one another.
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10/28/04 caddis | Oregon USA

link
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isn't gold like money?
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10/28/04 online frnortnr | British Columbia Canada
who peed in your soup?
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10/28/04 medium | Washington USA
someone said:
To apply the golden rule adequately, we need knowledge and imagination.


no wonder the majority of the US has trouble following it.

edited: 28 Oct 2004 
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10/28/04 online jdg | Washington USA
fish on

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10/28/04 online jdg | Washington USA
jdg said:
caddis said: Fix the people, and you don't need the g-rule..


but on the same token.. can ppl be fixed? or do they wanted to be fixed? or can they be fixed?

be like water
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10/28/04 hteah | Oregon USA
were u in the eagle scouts? good theory, but in reality, on the street, its much more complicated. i mean jesus said all this 2000+ years ago and look what we go out his seed, a bunch of x-boyscout homophobe wakjobs, and plenty of crapp latenight tv. thanx for the thought though
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10/28/04 online ignatius | Oregon USA
frnortnr said: who peed in your soup?


confucious say man who cook carrot and pee in same soup is very unsanitary.

sorry. couldn't resist.

i agree you do need imagination to follow the golden rule or at least a variety of experiences and the ability to be objective/non-judgemental.
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10/28/04 SteveC | Ontario Canada
Atticus Finch said: If you just learn a single trick, Scout, you'll get along a lot better with all kinds of folks. You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view... until you climb inside of his skin and walk around in it.
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SteveC, are you suggesting that we kill someone, skin them and wear their skin like ol' ed gien used to?
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10/28/04 hteah | Oregon USA
ill give u the thirdshift cabdriver (i luv my new avitar, so hack) rule.
1.watch ur back
2.trust no one
3.dont take shit, theres the door, get out!
4.dont get greedy(see karma below)
5. its all karma. if u r nice to people they will usually return the sentiment, or feel bad for being a schmuk
6.fuk off, get out
these rules could be applied to life in some way or another.
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